Good morning Gentlemen,
I’m just wrapping up a 12 week cycle of 600mg of Test P and 300mg of NPP. I’ve always have been able to recover my own testosterone production through PCT but the last few cycles have taken longer to get back to my normal test range (around 650). So Ive decided to start TRT (without a doctor) but not sure how much to start? Obviously I’ll need to get blood work done and make adjustments but just trying to get a rough idea where to start. Also for the record at 600mg a week of prop I needed no AI and my blood work was perfect. Going forward the plan is to safely maintain my test slightly higher then normal and twice a year up it while adding primo or mast. Any and all thoughts appreciated.
Good morning Gentlemen,
I feel like 1mg per pound of body weight is a pretty good ratio for myself and most. Even though that keeps my levels in the 800-1000 range.
Are you gonna TRT,add something and still call it trt? Or a real one…
I’m at work with marginal signal.
Hit you back tonight
Nope just low dose test e. No other compounds.
I’m on test, mast and proviron continuously, but I vary the dosage, and when I’m nearing TRT levels, I’ll do .25mg of Test, .20 mg of Mast, and 25mg of Proviron ED. That gives me perfect maintenance, no AI or other nonsense, and it feels great. I double those doses when I’m actively trying to grow and have the time to commit to more than three workouts a week.
You should always consult a physician…
… okay now that it’s been said, 1g per lb is a good technical jumping point. But I like easy math, and if test is 250/ml I’d start at 250 for a couple months and get labs. But again… that’s bc it’s the laziest option.
Like @Neuro said… I usually hit the easy button but that’s out of necessity of me being a slack lazy ass.
In the perfect world when I’m actually paying attention and doing everything correctly… 125mgs cyp every 3-4 days. I’ve stretched that out to every 6 days (see above)… I then pin approximately 200mgs to make myself feel better about being a slack lazy ass… not exactly according to hoyle but like I said i can be slack.
Sooo with all that being said… my personal trt is somewhere between 125 and 250mgs a week. I don’t feel well on high dosages.
I will add in prov when I have it, maybe twice a year til it runs out. I’ve got a brand new vial of mast that I haven’t touched yet.
I also take 12.5-50mgs of tbol pwo…3-4 times a week. I break 50 in half then break the half in half…. That all depends on my mogged up arthritic hands. Sometimes I just can’t get the tabs to snap and I’m too lazy to walk to the medicine cabinet to get the pill splitter… told ya. I lie to myself on the 50mg days and tell myself it’s going to be a top tier training session.
I also take cialis pwo… approximately 4 x a week.
I haven’t been called in to get my t levels checked in a year or so. Probably have to by this spring. If my t levels get close to 1k my trt provider will have kittens so that’s a dance i got to shuffle to. He’s happy when they’re below 500.
I’m starting to see data pile up showing low dose daily cialis to do pretty great stuff for arterial health in brain and heart. Huge huge huge potential for longevity applications.
Thanks guys! I will eventually get my doctor on board but for now I’ll try this out and run some blood work in about 4 weeks. I’ll let you know where it settles out.
Easy math is always nice
Man I’d take mine more often but foraee
Reason the pq stiff fucks with stomach if I use it frequently
Yeah I always get mine from aipct and don’t have any GI issues.
Should have put some in last order. 9 days
Shoulda woulda. You gotta be quicker than that big fella.
I got about 180 of the other one left I used one Sunday though. Wasn’t the best decision I’ve made of late but I got my worth out of it
Hi @Neuro,how are you doing?
Hey @John , I’m good. Working a lot. Working too much. But things should be calming down here soon, or the flu will hit hard and I’ll work even more. How are you?
I’m alright.work is busy.Gettin bloods Friday,and if everything is copacetic I’m gonna hop on test, proviron cycle…is it official with your ex?
Drove all my belongings from Alabama to Colorado a couple weeks ago! 22hours straight through in a uhaul!